Censorship seems to have vanished finally inside marvel Comics.

[NUddityBuffer]

Vulcan just called Adam Warlock a "Witless Fucker" in Guardians of the Galaxy Fourteen.

Wow.

Big woop on swearing, but the the demolishment of archaic conventions is aces.

Unless this is an accident like in that Wolverine a couple years back where they recalled an entire run because the word "Kike" was used as an antisemetic smear... But, is this marvel finally accepting that if children are no longer their audience in any way that they shouldn't have to pander for damn 8 year olds reading a few "bad" words.

Do you want more vulgar language and violence or less?

Discuss.

[Paul]

depends on how it is used. if someones brother is killed and the victims brother finds a guy who won't give up information and he catches up with him, SLAMS him up against a fence and yells, "YOU JERK! TELL ME ABOUT MY BROTHER!" I'm not buying it, it's not realistic. in that case i find swearing acceptable.

sometimes in the max punisher series it looks like the swearing is for swearing sake and not "well, this is just how he talks."

so it's all in the delivery....

that being said i cuss a hell of a lot in real life, especially when i have my ps3 out of pawn, even more when i have to put it back in.

[NUddityBuffer]

Some times i construct lengthy sentences to express my emotional well being while things are becoming a little cockeyed that seem to be nothing but a verbose repetition of the same four letter word, which feels quite good.

There's a forum I go to and this guy TOLD me to stop swearing in casual conversation.

I joyfully overreacted until he abandoned the site.

Now a week later, I'm reading the parent book War of Kings, which is excellent by the way, and they're still blacking out the swears.

Odd?

We must be in the middle of some great social experiment.

[Gerimi Burleigh]

It depends on who the book is marketed toward… a MAX title, no problem… For the Punisher or something equally mature in terms of content, Whatever language is acceptable on late night broadcast tv "bitch, ass, etc…"

But I can't see Spider-Man telling people to go $%^& themselves.

Even in a Daredevil OGN or special project, I could see a lot of supporting characters talking like they're on HBO's The Wire. Speaking of the Wire, there's a great sequence in Season one where Bunk and McNullty reconstruct a murder scene, communicating only w/ mulitple variations of "f**k"… It's the most entertaining and creative use of the word I've seen in any media in quite a long time, if ever.

…But again, it's about having appropriate content for the appropriate audience.

[NUddityBuffer]

and that's my issue (pun not intended) with this book, it's not targeted at anyone precisely, since it's plain bog standard marvel, and it's connected to a bunch of regular books crossoverwise... I really should do some googling on the matter? I could have a variant or it could have been a mistake.

I do want all comics to just be true to themselves, I do like the kiddy books and the "adult" books seem a bit gratuitous, but surely there's a reasonable middleground where stuff just happens?

[Paul]

"...surely there's a reasonable middleground where stuff just happens?" Sure, it's called Pixar!! ;)

no, i agree, though. you can have kiddie and adult but you should have middle ground so everyone can enjoy it. lots of movies have jokes where the kids get it one way and its clean but the adults get the real meaning, like in Shrek with the "no not my gumdrops!" interrogation scene.

i would just hate it if i something very important to the story that change the entire series as a whole was made into a kiddie book instead of the middle ground or bumping it up to adult. like the killing joke but instead of the shot and nude pictures of barbara she was made in joker's image and becomes just like him. Hate to read that in a kiddie book..

[Matthew Arcilla]

I agree with Paul, weak words like "you jerk!" doesn't seem really plausible given the circumstances he outlines, but I don't think it necessitates a-holes and f-bombs.

In the case of books like Daredevil that are more PG than R, I think there are enough acceptable swear words that can stand in for profanity: "damned bastards, screwing with me" are fine, and "bitch" is okay if used infrequently and doesn't become repetitive to the point of misogynist. I've stopped being a fan of Mark Millar's dialogue, but I think "ungrateful sow" is acceptable when a character needs to be a woman-hatin name caller.

In the case of Adam Warlock, I have trouble believing that Starlin-scale cosmic superhumans call each other "witless fucker" like they're on the set of The Shield. It takes me out of it and makes me think that the next time Maximus Boltagon will appear he'll be roughing up Ronan the Accuser and forcing him to service him at gunpoint.

[NUddityBuffer]

Well, that's what he did with his sister. Is Crystal a cousin or a sister? but he used inhuman Guilt to trip her into being a broodcow. Their progeny will be an awesome symbol of the unification of their two civilizations. Although i do like it how Crystal is going with the flow an not really bothering with being a punk about this when it is Ronan being girly being doubtful about why this tiny little girl is servicing him because her "uncle(??)" said it should be so.

Then, left to her own devices she marries people like Quicksilver.

"Meh."

And then cheats on him with a postman? Maybe it was a door to door sales man?

Something common.

Hardest job in the world.

Selling doors, door to door.

**Ding-Dong** "Hello, I was wondering if you wanted to... Oh, sorry, I see you already have one."

Jack Flagg has joined the Guardians.

Whitetrash.

Trailer trash.

Probably nine other kinds of trash too.

On him, I expect a mouth.

Patient zero.

[Matthew Arcilla]

I have no idea what you just said.

[NUddityBuffer]

O? Sorry. Talking points. :)

Crystal is a weather manipulator princess of the inhuman household who dated Johnny storm of the fantastic four in the 1960s but eventually married Quicksilver who is sometimes a villain but always manifesting a just turned white turd for his personality. In the Vision Scarlet Witch Miniseries in the early 80s, bored and frustrated, desperate one might even say about being a housewife to Magneto's son,.Cyrstal decides to fornicate with a door to door sales man who really got more than he bargained for trying to shill these mutants and Inhumans some leather bound encyclopaedias.

At the best of times, only an idiot marries Quicksilver, and then only a megaidiot tries to dissolve that marriage with sportcuckolding, when you are in danger of angering one of the most powerful and and unstable grouches on the planet.

She's also had dalliances with the Vision and Black Knight, actually, I believe that she was playing them against one another to massage her libido, but that's just something else wrong with her sense of decency and not directly effecting the current line of exposition.

Crystal's choices in men and her use of them after they've been tapped is scandalous and callous.

Blackbolt has arranged a marriage of political convenience with Ronan the Accuser, a big time Kree powerhouse and fantastic Four/Silver Surfer adversary who was Supremor up until he handed over the Empire to Black Bolt. Trading Princesses for power is an ancient and well tested political tool not used much on earth lo these last three hundred years, but in the day there's no argument that it worked.

Crystal seems to like The Accuser, but he overheard something he misunderstood which means that not only does he not know that she likes him, but he's thinking that she's pretending her heart out about where her heart is to deceive him into thinking that their marriage is even the tiniest bit "real" ...Although their wedding got strafed by an invasion incursion which had hospitalized him enough that the marriage has not been consummated yet which is probably why he's all in circles about what's going on with this woman who is supposed to be mothering his children for the next hundred years might just actually be a dire enemy.

War of Kings. It's quite a fine read.

Ultimately it doesn't matter if Crystal chooses her own blokes or they're doled out to her by her brother to enlarge his empire, because it's all going to end in tears, so bugger free will and any flight of fancy about "true love".

The comic with the swears, which begun this conversion, was Guardians of the Galaxy. An 80s protege of Captain America, jack Flagg, who is best described as the good old boy with two beers under her belt is ready to defend any trailer park (I lived in a trailer park when I was young. it was very nice.) from Alien invasion or the Red Skull. He says some rude words himself later in the issue ( because breeding shines through?) has just joined the Guardians of the Galaxy which might just be lowering the tone (thanik god) of all the wanky space god bollocks to a very human level as an every man is feeding us his perspective of some very big stuff. By stuff, we mean billions of aliens fighting another billions of aliens, with gods, super powers and flying saucers over egging the pudding a touch.

Jack Flag is in over his head which makes for pleasant reading.

Patient Zero is the label used to describe the first person to exhibit the signs of plague. In this case I am referring to "Potty Mouth" as a plague and that everyone else is swearing because Jack Flag's liberal use of curse words is quite infectious, not that there's anything wrong with that, but it was all "blue blazes", "leaping lizards" and "galloping galaxies" before Jack set up shop in outt'a space. I repeat: Patient Zero.

Isn't it a tiny bit better when I use less words, because of selection, edition, and censorship running though my cultural buffer powered by my worn social contract and my wavering sense of good taste in an effort not to overload the unwashed with totality of this horse hockey I consider small talk?

Hello. :)

[Matthew Arcilla]

@_@

I know my Quicksilver, Crystal, et al history. I meant I had no idea what you were saying in that post... and what it had to do with anything I said in my post.

[NUddityBuffer]

I believe it was your Ronan the Accuser sucking Blackbolts dick which started me on about how Blackbolt was forcing his sister/cousin ( I really should look that up) to suck Ronan the Accusers dick.

But then is it the sex or the babies well after the sex which is the key stones from these relationships which is building the new Kree Empire?

I just finished reading the next Guardians of the Galaxy and they're blacking out the swears again.

Experiment over.

[Derrick Fish]

I'll never quite understand why curses are blacked over or bleeped. If the intention is to protect the ever-so-innocent minds of impressionable tots, how does a black bar do that? Really? I'm relatively certain that "Guardians of the Galaxy" is NOT going to be the first place that most kids come across the word "Fucker".

But let's say that, for the sake of argument, it IS. And some kid who's NEVER heard anyone curse ever is reading that book and they see those black bars in the middle of the word balloons. Are they going to think that Vulcan is saying: Adam Warlock, you're a witless BLACK BAR!" No, the kid is gonna KNOW that a word is being hidden. The kid is going to be more interested in the missing word than half of anything else in the black barring BOOK!

To reference an episode of the Simpsons when Chief Wiggum finds Bart and Ralphie going through his closet full of police RIOT gear and weapons, he chides him with the line: "What IS your facination with my forbidden closet of mystery!?"